Why did Ryder and Big Smoke betray Grove Street?

Once Tenpenny starts blackmailing him, Big Smoke has no choice but to betray the gang, as he knows what would happen if he doesn't cooperate with the corrupt officer. Although, he also did it for power and wealth, and indeed incited Ryder to betray the gang, as since he could not do it alone.
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Why did Big Smoke betray Grove Street?

Big Smoke betrayed CJ because he was greedy and ambitious. From the beginning of the story, Big Smoke tried to persuade Sweet to get into the drug game but Sweet kept resisting because it was destroying communities. Because Smoke wanted the money so badly, he ditched the grove family for the ballas.
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Was Ryder meant to betray Grove Street?

One common GTA San Andreas fan theory is that Ryder wasn't supposed to betray CJ and the Grove Street Families. It's a complete contrast to how Big Smoke aligning with C.R.A.S.H. and the Ballas made perfect sense, given the hints in the plot. However, there are also a few reasons why Ryder's plot twist makes sense.
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Was Ryder jealous of CJ?

When CJ returns and begins his rise in the Grove Street Families, Ryder becomes increasingly jealous even though he is already aligned with the Ballas.
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Did Big Smoke regret betraying CJ?

The two get involved in a gunfight, which is won by Carl, who manages to talk to Smoke about his betrayal before his death. Smoke, showing remorse for his actions, tells Carl that he "got caught up" in the money and power he was able to obtain.
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If Ryder and Big Smoke don't betray - GTA San Andreas

Is Big Smoke a bad guy?

Big Smoke became a treacherous, arrogant, ambitious, selfish, delusional, dangerous, and greedy man who believed Los Santos was his city and, once he died, all would remember his name. In truth, he was just a pawn who was used by Tenpenny to take down gangs from Los Santos.
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What if Big Smoke didn't betray?

Without the betrayal, CJ and the Grove Street Families would have been better equipped to fight off the Ballas gang and other rival gangs in the game. This could have resulted in a stronger Grove Street gang and a greater level of control over the game's fictional city of Los Santos.
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What is Ryder's real name GTA?

Ryder's real name is Lance Wilson. Lance is revealed to have been a drug dealer from the age of ten, and as we know, joined the Grove Street Families later on.
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Why does Tenpenny hate Carl?

Tenpenny seems to, in particular, enjoy controlling Carl, as he often uses Carl as his "dog" to do dirty jobs for him and to protect himself from various attempts by several people to expose his own crimes, all while blackmailing Carl and threatening him with harsh retribution that "(he) will think God himself has ...
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Why is Sweet Angry at CJ?

After his release from prison, Sweet becomes angry at CJ over his decision to abandon Grove Street. He refuses to go and see any of the properties CJ has acquired, and returns to his house in Ganton. However, in the end the two brothers manage to take back their home and get rid of Tenpenny.
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Why does Grove Street hate Ballas?

The War. The start of the war had never been explained but it may have started when drugs were introduced to Los Santos in the early 1980s. The war seemed to be going on around the time Carl and Lance "Ryder" Wilson were growing up because Carl mentions Ryder beating up a teacher for wearing Balla colors.
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Did OG Loc betray CJ?

He shows his darker side several times by asking CJ to murder Madd Dogg's supporters and producers. Being traitorous, he is willing to backstab CJ afterwards. He is also cowardly, and tries to outwit him when both CJ and Madd Dogg confront the would-be rapper in his mansion.
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Who killed CJ's mother?

In 1992, two Ballas members, under the orders of corrupt LSPD officers Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Pulaski, attempted a drive-by shooting at the Johnson house in order to kill Sweet. However, Sweet was not in the house, and Beverly was killed instead.
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What were Big Smoke's last words?

When I'm gone, everyone gonna remember my name... Big Smoke! Note: Smoke has been shot to death by Carl Johnson, and says this line before dying when asked by Carl why he turned his back on the Grove Street Families.
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What did Big Smoke actually order?

Big smoke orders "2 Number 9's, a number 9 large, number 6 with extra dip, number 7, 2 number 45's, one with cheese, and a large soda." So what Big Smoke ordered for himself was a number 9 large, a number 7, 2 number 45's (one with cheese) and a large soda. This is still a ridiculous order.
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What is Ryder's name in GTA?

Lance Wilson, more commonly known as Ryder, is a character in the Grand Theft Auto series who appears as a main character and the tertiary antagonist in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
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What did Ryder do to CJ?

Despite turning on his own gang and CJ, in the whole series of events, including the deadly hunt on him by CJ, Ryder never shows any attempt to kill or harm CJ, even when the latter finally kills him in the mission Pier 69.
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Is CJ based on Tupac?

DJ Pooh compared CJ to Tupac Shakur in that he is fiercely dedicated to his family but becomes "cold-blooded" when necessary. CJ's physical appearance is modeled after Young Maylay.
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Who betrayed Carl?

Betrayed by Big Smoke and Ryder and move to San Fierro. While on a mission to weaken the Ballas, Carl is contacted by Cesar to meet him at an area not far from a Ballas drug hideout in order to give more information on the drive-by shooting.
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Who is the bad guy in GTA San Andreas?

Officer Frank Tenpenny is the main antagonist of the 2004 video game Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, the seventh installment of the Grand Theft Auto franchise. He is a corrupt senior police officer of the LSPD and the nefarious leader of the C.R.A.S.H.
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Who is Ryder in GTA San Andreas based on?

He has appeared in films such as Menace II Society, and can be heard in Radio Los Santos with the song "Hood Took Me Under". His look is based off Eazy-E, a late rapper and vocalist of the rap group N.W.A., who was famous during the late eighties and early nineties. He died of AIDS complications in 1995.
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Is Sweet CJ's brother?

Sweet is the leader of the Grove Street Families gang, which is based in Ganton, Los Santos. He is the eldest son of Beverly Johnson and the older brother of Carl Johnson, Kendl and Brian. Sweet is also shown to have an unnamed girlfriend in two missions.
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Is CJ in GTA V?

Carl Johnson, better known as CJ, is the main protagonist of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. Eventually, he becomes the most lovable protagonist from all GTA protagonists ever existed. It turns out in Grand Theft Auto V, there are some proofs that CJ still exist in the game, or in 2013 when GTA V sets in.
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Why did CJ leave San Andreas?

Following Brian's death, Carl left Los Santos and moved to Liberty City. When he arrived, he began working with Joey Leone, the son of Leone Crime Family Don Salvatore Leone, in the car theft business, as well as other small-time crimes.
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